Which religion are you?

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Which religion are you?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TerranGod, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. KuraiKozo

    KuraiKozo New Member

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    if you look at their beliefs, it's rather similar to other religions.

    'Modern satanism can in general be categorized under two broad types: Theistic Satanism and Atheistic Satanism. Theistic Satanists venerate Satan as a supernatural deity, whom some consider to be entirely benevolent. In contrast, Atheistic Satanists are atheists and regard Satan as merely symbolic of certain human traits.'



    1. Major emphasis is placed on the power and authority of the individual Satanist, rather than on a God or Goddess. Manye people know this and assume it's evil, but there's more to it than that.
    2. They believe that "no redeemer liveth" - that each person is their own redeemer, fully responsible for their own life. This is a good kind of rule. Everyone is their own master, in other words.
    3. "Satanism respects and exalts life. Children and animals are the purest expressions of that life force, and as such are held sacred and precious..." Children and animals are not abused or killed. Some religions need to beat this into people. Religious and non religious both abuse this rule frequently. funny how for satanism it's spelled out and held to this level, wouldn't you say?
    4. Those Satanists who believe in Satan or Set as a living entity do not worship or demonstrate their faith in him (as, for example, Christians worship and pray to their God). That means they believe but there is no praying, or whipping, or exclamations of faith. Maybe gatherings, but no worshiping as the terms most people use it.
    5. They believe that one should live out their lusts and desires, and enthusiastically explore the "seven deadly sins" with other consenting adults. keys words here are CONSENT and ADULT. that means these guys aren't preaching abuse or pedophilia.
    6. Uniqueness and creativity are encouraged. Some cue the hallelujah, because this isn;t enforced enough in today's society.

    MORE misconceptions here:
    yeah, people are scared of it. But i think people need to stop seeing differing views as evil or attacks on their belief. here ye all are
    http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1885.shtml
     
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  2. Hayden351

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    But Satans the devil who burns people and stuff, that would be like loving someone that kills you and you know that the he loathes you and that he would kill you a thousand times a enjoy your suffering.
     
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    That's in Christianity, there may be other descriptions in other beliefs, such as Satanism
     
  4. Fenix

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    ....wat
     
  5. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    not everyone believes that.

    It sorta makes sence in a way, for if God is all powerful/all seeing, why wopuld he create an angle who would be powerful enough to try to defy him? If it's all so humans would have a choice to follow Him or burn in hell, then God has a pretty odd sence of justice or sick sence of humor.

    I don't believe in blindly following any religion as I don't believe any religion is truely correct if there is a god, and thier logic feels flawed(join or burn in hell!)

    Why should I believe in following one religion so I don't go to hell when most religions say that. I say actions speek better than beliefs, as God should care more about how we act, not how we think.
     
  6. KuraiKozo

    KuraiKozo New Member

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    They don't believe in the christian based satan, no. they don't think he's some evil creature of torture or hatred. read up on it sometime.
     
  7. Hayden351

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    No he is not able to defy him he is too weak


    Its not odd justice or sick humor, Its becuse of sin. Blame Adam and Eve not God for the burning in hell part.

    Every religion doesn't make any sense including evolution its on belief that every religon lives.

    He only takes action if you step of the precipece, so to speak, there are many things, even though we don't think of them as works of God, that God does.

    But he does act on actions instead of thought, for everyone is evil and has evil intentions but when they fight thoes thoughts they get closer to God.
     
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  8. KuraiKozo

    KuraiKozo New Member

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    1. who says he is too weak? it depends on your religion. But if we're talking about catholicism, eon means why would God even make something with the ability to become evil if he is perfect? For the belief is that Satan was an angel and that tried to raise up against God and thus was condemned to hell. the argument is that why would God create somethign so it could defy him? why not make a perfect creature like himself?

    2. You can't just blame them. I think anyone would have done it in their situation. Because humans are naturally curious and prone to temptation. another argument of why didn't God make us perfect and why did he create the tree anyway? humans were not born with sin. adam and eve were created w/o sin.

    3. wrong, religion can make sense, depending on how you look at it. everythign is plausible, and if you say it's farfetched, give me proof I'm wrong :)

    4. um no....I strongly disagree that people are -evil-. I think this is called using your religious thoughts to compliment on other people's thoughts. Not many religions claim people are evil. having sin does not make one evil, get your terms right, please. People are not evil. And if you need proof, please refer to all humans that arent't out there killing, stealing, or plundering. People cannot become evil, either, from what I see. Evil is total lack of goodness or love (though these are all based on view points, ofc) no matter how bad a person is, they have other thoughts and sides. Take BTK (a murderer, bound, tortured, raped, and killed women) he had a family and was very loving toward them. Even the most demented people often have another side to them. And even if they're just rabid killers, they're not evil. they are just not good people.
     
  9. Hayden351

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    1. Not sure about that.

    2. God said that we will have temptations however we can always not fall into temptation he gives us test that are not beyond what we can do. As to why he did not make the tree are us perfect I don't know im not God.

    3. Prove any religion is true prove that we know what happend 5000 years ago.

    4. Everyone is evil everyone has evil thoughts everyone could kill and sin does make people evil if you found 20 dollars would you run around asking if anyone was missing it or would you look around a little and then take it, or answear this how long would it take for man kind to do everything right? a infinet amount of time.
     
  10. KuraiKozo

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    3. i can't, just as you can't prove it's not true.

    4. umm...no. lemme find you the dictionary terms of those.
    EVIL
    Noun
    - the force in nature that governs and gives rise to wickedness and sin.
    - the wicked or immoral part of someone or something

    take and pick which one you want. I've never seen such ignorance. I don't want to derail this thread, but seriously, get some dictionaries and check out what means what. Or better yet, get some common sense on this issue. this is an insult to people, religious or non. I've found money and tried to find who it belongs to, I don't take it. I found five dollars once at school and turned it in. And you know why? Because someone was missing that five dollars and needed it for something. Yes, I've picked up and kept money, yes I make mistakes, as does everyone. But that doesn't make people evil, now does it? I lost my nintendo DS and some kid I knew said his friend found it and she GAVE IT TO ME. She said she was glad she could help. She was just happy she could help out. Your logic is so flawed. Doing bad things doesn't make someone a bad person thoroughly. and it sure doesn't make them evil. So I take a twenty once i find on the floor, does it make it any less that I've saved people from suicide? Or helped a kid find their parent? Or comforted someone who lost a very dear relationship? Is doing some things that are a little bad offest all those and make me evil? If so, don't even bother to respond to this because I will say you are 100% wrong. And I'm no exception. Even people who are mean do good things. and to think just because they think mean things or do them does not offest the person, nor will it ever. and, as a counter to your oh so intelligent question: how long would it take for someone to be all evil? Also and infinite amount of time.
     
  11. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    yes he is weaker than God, but he was still able to get enough angels to rise against Him(I think around 2/3 of them according the Christianity)

    Evil was present before Adam/Eve. And Sin would never have existed if the snake(Satan) rose up against God.

    How does evolution = religion? Evolution has nothing to do with gods or mystical beliefs. I have never understood how people associate evolution with religion.

    There is no proof that God has done anything.

    As for miracles, here's an arguement: a person who is about to die suddenly gets better, so people call it a miracle and a something only God could have done. So, what is it then when someone perfectly healthy with no past major health problems suddenly has a stroke and dies? My the miracle arguement, it's also something only God could have done.
     
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    I frankly dislike organised religion, we could argue the complexities and fallacies of 80% the Christian God is supposed to have done, but ultimatly from my point of view, the only thing thats important here is its affect on our lives in general of which - has been horribly bad. Logical thinking has been buried under the ineptitude of the shroud that religion creates. Not to mention the countless wrong doings in the name of religion. Would mankind have found another scapegoat for which to ride down an alleyway of murder conquest, and outright abuse? Yes, perhaps, while mankind refuses to embrace evidence and proof over spiritual ignorance there will always be killings in the name of spiritual teachings. However I couldnt put it better here in this sense than H.L. Mencken:

    "I believe that religion, generally speaking, has been a curse to mankind — that its modest and greatly overestimated services on the ethical side have been more than overcome by the damage it has done to clear and honest thinking."
     
  13. Hayden351

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    Evolution doesn't = religon
    It just doesn't make any sense
     
  14. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    What doesn't make sense?
    That animal species change over time to become different animals that are better adapted to thier environment?

    How does that not make sence? Over time animals with slightly better traits live better and are less likely to die early, thier decendants keep these traits. When another of these decendants has the same trait that becomes slightly better, the same thing happens. This keeps happeneing over many generations, usually takeing hundreds-thousands of years.

    You can even loosly look at the human species that way. People whose ancestors are from certain parts of the world have different skin tones. This is genetic, so the genetic coding for skin color is different.

    Heres a good recent study I found:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htm

    "Pod Mrcaru lizards were genetically identical to the source population"

    yet:

    "Eating more plants caused the development of new structures called cecal valves, designed to slow the passage of food"

    Thats the basics of evolution at work. Even without any DNA changes, the relocated portion of the population created a new structure in its digestion that isn't found in any of the non-relocated population.
     
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    Natural selection and adaptation...

    Ahhhhhh.
     
  16. Fenix

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    Straight from the bible dawg.

    The 'sons of God' are children of Adam. Who are the 'daughters of men?' Why does the writer feel the need to differentiate between the two? Obviously, the 'sons of God' are what God himself made, but the 'daughters of men' are evolved monkeys.
     
  17. KuraiKozo

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    The bible is preaching bestiality now!?
     
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    what religion hasnt?



    look at the old greeks, Zeus's goat mom was also his first lover
     
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    Nothing can be interpretted in so many different ways as the bible, vagueness really is the foundation that illogical beliefs are built on.
     
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    lucky you mean think of fish that were just bearly able to survive a encounter with a fish oh they must be better then the rest becuse they were not in the way of the mouth and got away, now that doesn't make sense, think of the mutation of short legged sheep if a wolf comes along it can't escape and it get eaten or if it doesn't die and you breed it then you have a wohle buch of slow moving sheep that get easily eaten, bearly any mutations are helpful 6 winged fruit flies can't fly how does more wings help them, iy doesn't there are short winged, cruked wings and curly wings (and more but i can't think of them) all of these are mutations that make them worse then normale ones, and seedless oranges that may seam good but it can't reproduce if we just breed thoes we would run out of oranges then whats the good of that mutation tons of mutations of any animal make them worse of then normale.

    This isn't evolution it just means that certain foods make them reproduce faster then normal.