Which religion are you?

*steals polished banhammer from fenix*

its finaly mine!

 

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What was I saying? :

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Tweak,that was a step too far.

BANHAMMER, HOOOOOO!

 

I would like to point out to you Jon that using those definitions truth and fact are not the same.

It is a fact that there are fossils that does not mean that evolution is true because if the animals were created they would still leave fossils.

It is similar to saying that since it is a fact that all my the parts of my PC were manufactured that it is true my PC was made in a factory because it was not.

 

there are so many gaps in religion filled by science
god created the universe...how? with the big bang
god created woman...how? he took some dna(a rib) from the man and altered its chromosones
etc...

 

If you look at JUST science or JUST religion, you have holes.

If you look at them together, it's perfect.

 

Science tells us the what and the how. Religion answers the who and in some cases the why.

 

But the fossils they found were slowly changing depending on how deep they found it (how deeper how older) I think you can call it a fact. The question isn't wether did it happen? But how did it happen? Help from higher hand of purely nature?

I must say, for an Agnostic I'm becoming quite fond of the intelligent design theory, but ofcourse, I have my doubts

Yeah, god cloned her ;D haha omg

Damn, I mean OMAIG (O my agnostic interpretation of god)

 

@ Joneagle_X. I am not saying that it isn't proven that there are changes in organisms over times, that is obviously proven. However the theory of evolution (or what I am referring to) basically refers to the creation of life through evolution. This cannot be proven and chances are will never be proven. The closest we have gotten to proving it was Urey and Millers experiment, where they replicated the possible conditions that existed back when the Earth had been recently formed, and they did succeed in creating organic compounds from inorganic substances. However it will never be further proved that life did evolve from these organic compounds. People don't call it a theory because it takes away from its credibility, but you mistakenly think that they are referring to evolutional gradualism, when they are actually referring to evolutional creation, which is a theory. Also, why did you remove the link to evilbible.com? It only uses examples from the Bible to show how how corrupt it was. He's an example using a passage from the bible.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Note the phrase 'keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock and other plunder', which basically means, rape the women, use the children as slaves and steal all of their possessions.
(Am I willing to remove this part if people object, but I was to reiterate that this is an extract from the 5th Book of the Hebrew Bible, called Deuteronomy)
Long story short, it is the creation through evolution that is a theory. Also I would appreciate having the link to be put back in my previous post, because it is not slanderous or made up, it is interpreting real passages from the Bible.

 

Thats why I totally dislike what the old testament says. With all due respect, but theres such a big contradiction between the old and the new testament. While in the new testament the god is shown like a loving god, in the old one he comes close to (what it seems to me, an outsider) a dictator.

 

LOL, they had to update it so that people would still believe in it. No-one would worship a god like in the old testament, despite it supposedly being documented evidence. In another couple of 100 years or something they will probably completely rewrite it again to suit the new audience. I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

 

@ItzaHexGor

That passage states that the men can spare the women and children and let them live on the land God will give them because the women at that city are being misused by their enemies. There is no evidence that they'll rape them and put their children to slavery although they can convince the women to marry them.

@coalescence

Yes, because in the new testament instead of God punishing people He shows mercy on them. During the old testament times, God was just and He punishes thos who sins.

 

There may not be evidence that they did rape them, but there is no evidence that their god forbade it, If god was going to prohibit them from raping the women and forcing the children into slavery, then it would state, 'spare the women, children, etc.'. But it does not say this. It says that the invaders can take them as their own. Meaning that they become property of an invader.

 

Read the whole chapter and the whole book of Deuteronomy, not just the passage.

 

Being property of a conqueror is not the same thing as being raped by them

 

Being their property makes your their slave. Also I doubt that the women would marry the invaders. I can just imagine that pickup line... "Hey baby, I just killed your husband and burned down your house. Want to go out sometime?" That'll work...

Here's a more blatant example:
Zechariah 14:1-2
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.
Women ravished? What kind of a god is that?

Also, some of gods ideas about women being property:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
Basically, if a man rapes a woman, then he has to pay her family. That's just sick. but on top of that he then has to marry her. The act of rape was basically just a contract saying 'I'm buying you, you are now my wife'. What if the raped victim doesn't want to marry the person who violated her? She doesn't even get a choice.

Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
I can understand that the raper would be punished very severely, but the rape victim as well? Now that is sick. If a man is raping a women he would obviously try to find some way of restraining her and stopping her calling for help, so even if the victim tried her hardest to kick and scream and let everybody know but wasn't able to, she gets killed for being raped.

I'm sorry if I'm sounding harsh. I'm not actually angry or anything nor am I trying to force my beliefs on anyone, I'm just saying how discriminatory these things were. I can understand that women would have had less rights, because womens liberation was only recent. The thing that I find so bizarre is that all of this was done 'in gods name'

 

Explain why only one type of religion is tought in school and not all religions such as buhdism it's biased as all hell, and student's don't have the option to leave the session so...

 

Maybe in the US, but at my school we talked about all religions equally as much.

And ffs, stop calling Buddhism a religion. It's a teaching/philosophy.

 

Meh i don't pay attention to religion coz i couldn't really give a rats donkey, and i don't live in the US.

 

I dont beleive any religion because I have my own life and live it and iff something is bad then I will live and iff something good then a bonus I just go with the flow!