Who you voting for in the 2008 President election?

propaganda is good for the people

 

I love how Hillery and Mid Romney... Not that I want Hillery anywhere near the white house...

 

Stephen Colbert, would be the best prez evar!

 

Of course! Because He is America (and So Can You!)

 

lol, i dont mean to give out propaganda, I just want you to be informed. If you think im giving out propaganda, just watch cnn or fox news. All they ever talk about is "america's Mayor" Guiliani" or hillary clinton or those other guys. They usually ignore Ron Paul and are hope he goes away. The internet is a new medium that is low-cost and anyone get access to. It allows for Paul's message of freedom to spread.
You are right about one thing, this is a Revolution. A revolution that is going to put America into the hands of the people. No more big government, no more spending, and no more undeclared wars for oil!

Ron Paul was on the Stephen colbert's show once and other shows, I thinks you can find it at youtube.

One last thing, propaganda is not good at all. Propaganda is a way to control and manipulate masses of people. Its what stalin and hitler did. ANd to some extent, there has been a increasing amount of propaganda ever since Bush got into office. It began with the Iraq war with the constant messages of "war" "terror", saddam hussen and osama bin laden. THe bush administration used its power to silent reporters who disagree with him. He managed to trick america into going to war on a pack of lies. He managed to mix two totally different people about the causes of 9/11. Did you know that about 50% of americans believe Saddam Hussien had something to do with 9/11? A lot of americans are falling for these lies, but not anymore.
With the power of the internet and with Ron Paul's message we are changing these things and with your help, we can make it happen.

 

the propaganda has worked, ron paul is winning

 

Truthfully I don't think any of those choices are very good... so if I here something good about someone, that's my vote.

 

not even one of them, who's a better candidate in your eyes?

 

Nah, I don't really like any of them, but I don't know much about Mike, Ron and Bill so I guess I can't judge them really until I learn more about them.

 

Well I've said it before, this is out of my hands until the Presidential elections.

If you guys vote him out of the primary, I'll think about voting for him.

 

I have no clue who I am voting for. Deciding this long before the election just doesn't seem like a good idea. I want to have more time to see what they do. Also gives me time to sort through all the propaganda

 

Yep, and since Gore won the Nobel Peace Price the other day, we might even see him pop up and even take down Hillary. Which is what I'm expecting to actually happen really. Right now though, I personally would either vote Ron Paul or John Edwards.

By the time I'm 30, Al Gore's gonna be emperor of the world

 

That's what I'm afraid of... I'm more scared of Hillery getting i though. I DO NOT want her in the white house. So, if Hillery doesn't get in I guess I'll be happy.

 

Yay then the government won't have money... wait... that's a bad thing.

Far off wars have a lot to do with our security. If Ron Paul said this he has no clue when it comes to foreign policy. Additionally, it makes him an idiot.

 

I'd just like to state that yes we are the U.S. is in Iraq for the wrong reasons but it makes apsolutly no sence for the U.S. to pull out now that it has started. A lot of candidates say vote for me because I will make a plan to get the U.S. troops home. Why don't they say their solution...? Cause they don't have one. If the U.S. leaves then terrorists will have another base of opperations. Comments?

 

I have comments, why on Earth would "terrorists" have a base, if by terrorists you mean the terrorists we don't like, namely al-Qaeda. The foreign terrorist group in Iraq, known as al-Qeada in Iraq, I say foreign to mean they are mostly not Iraqi, are a very small part of the violence in Iraq and are none to popular with the actual Iraqis. Al-Qeada, in Iraq is losing in Alanbar province, not because of our military or the Iraqi goverment's forces, but because they are being attacked by the Sunni militias in that area who we are arming. Granted, those arms we are giving them will likely be turned against Shia militias or our military, but for now they are helping.

My point in telling you this is that the Iraqis won't let foreign terrorists use their country as a base because they don't like them.

Our staying is what makes no sense. The Iraqi central government is falling apart. They have no power to bring the opposing factions in Iraq together, nor do they have the power to control their own military and police force. They have bee unable to make any sort of reconcilliation or find a way to divide up the countries oil revenue. Untill these things are done there can be no end to the violence, and there is nothing our military can do to change this.

In the meantime, Turky is threatening to launch attacks into Iraqi Kurdistan to target PKK forces, Kurdish terroirsts who oppose Turkish opression and want indepenance for the Kurdish dominant parts of south eastern Turky. Turky is also a bit annoyed because the US is likely supporting another Kurdish terrorist group, PJAK, opposed to Iran. That's right, the US is supporting a terrorist organization.

What we should do is get our military the hell out of the country. At the same time we should get Iraq's neighbors to help us convince the Iraqi's that they have to come up with some political reconciliation. The only solutions to the problems of that country are political.

 

Um, I don't beleive that we are funding a terrorist organisation. I would however like to state that a lot of the terrorists apearing in Iraq are from Iran and Syria. So, what is wrong with helping people who also don't like Iran.

PS: Please, lets try to keep this argument on a peaceful scale shall we
If I am wrong in something just politely point me into the right direction...

 

Kevin rudds got my vote because i live in aus and want to post in this thread anyway

 

yer im voting for rudd aswell

 

The thing with Iraq is, as soon as we went in we lost all good choices. Now its just a matter of choosing the one that sucks the least. So yeah, make a choice.....

Also, if Hillary wins then the White house will be inhabited by only 2 different families for possibly 32 years..hows that for nothing seems to be changing....