Your opinion on Gay marriage?

Yeah. Thing is, we've got to get the same thing going for discrimination against Homosexuals, hell, against any minority or group that's been / is being discriminated against. Until then, we won't be able to progress very far, as a society.

 

Darren Hayes and Elton John Spring to mind.
Their lives. Their actions. As long as they don't force their way of life on me. I don't give a ****. They can do exactly as they please. And I'm ok with that.

 

BAH i discarded my Christianity faith to the sewers long ago so now I am guided by pure intuition and what seems moral to me.

~anyway~ back to the matter at hand... gays should be allowed to posses the full experience of life. That is they should also be able to bear witness to the deceit and mirage that holy matrimony really is... maybe then would they leave me the f$&k alone. -humble mumble grumble-

 

If homosexuals pester you because they can't get married...

Excuse my French but what the **** is going on down in the states then?

 

As another poster already said, civil unions are fine. They already have the same rights. To change the definition of a word because it is discriminatory is stupid. If we do that, then on the same principle, we should be changing the words mother, father, man, woman, brother, sister, female, male, and so on. Technically, even the word homosexual is discriminatory since it doesn't allow for heterosexuals. Or how about African-American? That discriminates against us white folks.

 

I am not for gay rights or straight rights.
I am for individual rights.

Second, rights do not come from government or "society". They are inalienable.

Third, marriage is a personal or private matter. The government needs to get out of the marriage business, period.

 

marriage is a "man-woman" thing and is "owned" by the church
so its their rules...

you don't go screwing an institutions rule now do you?

and thats why we don't clash politics with religion

 

wait, so atheïsts cant get married either?

 

"the church"
So other religions don't have marraiges now?

 

EXACTLY. It really doesn't effect me or my children if gay people are allowed to marry. It's not taught in public schools and you can tell your kids it's not okay to be gay for such and such reasons if you want to. The point is that church and state should always be seperated.

 

How sure are you about that? Depending on where you live, homosexuality as an acceptable way of living is taught as early as kindergarten.

Firstly, there are other reasons besides religious for why you might want to avoid allowing homosexual marriage.

Secondly, civil unions that allow homosexuals the same rights are common in most states.

Third, where do you draw the line? The morality of many people is informed at their church (or mosque, etc.). Should they then be forced to vote for the opposite of what they think is morally correct? I agree, the government shouldn't try to legislate morality, especially when morality differs so much on many issues. But when an issue does come up, an issue that does require legislation from the government, people must be free to vote their conscience.

 

atheists and others CAN still marry

but that would be a CIVIL marriage, not a religious one

 

so, why is civil marriage forbidden for gay peple now, or am i getting something wrogn?

 

Civil unions exist, and they are fine for homosexuals. But homosexuals are not satisfied with that. They want marriage too. If they were simply satisfied with civil unions that offer all the same financial benefits, this issue wouldn't be much of an issue.

 

Which is just clear that we have to totally bring down the church's/etc. role in our societies and make civil unions for everyone. Marriage should be purely ceremonial, and if anyone would want it, then the churches/etc. can decide if they want to marry a couple or not, from their own moral views. Otherwise, you just have churches/etc. marrying people for money. Just shows that conservatism is dumb****stupid.

 

I agree completely...up until your last two sentences. Where did that come from? Since when do churches marry people for the money?

 

coz i think if you marry someone in the church, you are also "civil-ly" married
but im only assuming

 

Uh...

What?

I'm PRETTY sure that's not how it works.

 

Oh sorry ^ ^;; not what I wanted to say

but still em..left-radical ftw

 

Its the same thing as:
-"No, you cant get married."
-"Why?!"
-"Your name is James, and we dont allow guys named James to get married."
Havent read more than the first page in this thread so I dont know if sum1 else have said this before me...