zerg swarm vs borg collective

since he compared the borg to the replicators he obviously meant milkyway, the others dont assimilate technology

OLD SCHOOL REPLICATORS ROCK!

 

Erm, Pegasus Replicators assimilated, or at least replicated the entire Alterran society.

What I actually wanted to point out was that Pegasus Replicators were were made of weaker materials. They had normal destructible nanites. Milky Way an Asgard galaxies Replicators were made of nano cells. Those were almost indestructible, since they could go liquid and reform again.

Strangely, I must have missed an important episode. Because at a certain point they could also just shoot the Milky Way version. Any idea what caused that?

 

the milkyways could always just be shot, only when made of stronger material, these thigns could reform themselves

and the alterran replicators didnt get new technology, all they could use was alteran tech

 

Pegasus Replicator tech sucked. Those Drones... So terribly slow. XD

I know it would overpower Earth in the series, but I always found it stupid that McKay and Carter never found out how to make a ZPM, or some new Drones. I mean, the Alterans made a machine to construct Replicators, why not for other stuff as well?

 

only reasons i can think of is that

1. A ZPM is like a battery, easy to carry but costs more energy to create then it gives
2. they were made on aurora-class vessels

 

No, it uses subspace power from a different dimension of some sort. I never understood how they get depleted anyway. I'm going to do a bit of reading on that now.

 

no, ZPM's had ARTIFICIAL subspace universes, so their source of power was created, not natural

 

Just read some wiki articles from Gateworld. They only say that it [qoute]stops working when it reaches maximum entropy[/quote], which is still a bad explanation, imo.

Meh, just use project Arcturus with a dimensional bridge to an uninhabited universe. ENDLESS POWER! MUHAHAHAHAHA!

 

Well if a ZPM is limited by reaching maximum entropy then it would be reasonable guess that it basicly draws power from a mini subspace universe that starts off like ours and continually approaches maximum entropy. The problem with that is like ijffdrie said you would have to put more energy into its creation than you would get out of in its lifetime.

As for the why Earth didn't do this or that the answer of plot is pretty obvious. To look at it from a different perspective however, Earth always two kinds of bad guys, one had the numerical advantage or one who had the technological advantage. If you look at all of the technological advantages in the Stargate universe they are all derived from being better at power generation than the next guy.

Alterans - ZPMs
Ori - Ori Reactor
Asgard - Asgard Core
Goa'uld - Naquadah Reactor
Wraith - Wraith Core?
Humans - Modern Tech

Obviously the ordering of that list changes throughtout the series but the general idea is the same, 99% of the time more technologically advanced = better power source than the next guy on the list. Thus, if Earth could figure out how to create ZPMs it would be game over.

 

*next subject*
Borg Collective vs Galactic Empire?

 

im a newb

galactic empire?
is that another name for the star wars empire?


Borg'd own them, one borg per stardestroyer and the entire empire falls apart

 

I dissagree the Borg would have the same problem that they would have with the Protoss, they would be completely outgunned in space. If the Borg could successfully board the Empire ships before being destroyed then the game would change drasticly but that is a big if. Admittedly the Empire ships would be substantially easier to take control of than Protoss ships, but they still put out an amazing amount of firepower, also the Death Star would turn a Borg cube into rubble in one shot (one shot also means no chance to adapt to the attack).

 

Good point about the Deathstar
It really depends who is attacking and who is defending, if the borg are attacking, they might be able to sneak a single borg on a ship, assimilating all tech, thus not only making their own ships stronger, but also acquiring a very very big destructive ship
or they could target a space port, who arent fully shielded.

and how are the borg outgunned in space, they have got thousands of cubes, and the empire has a couple of dozen stardestroyers(No, i will not accept the book where they had thousands of stardestroyers, dozens of superstardestroyers and Luke learned to control life as canon, seeing as everything else greatly contradicts that book)

If it were the borg on the defending site, i'd give the empire a chance, seeing as then they'd only encounter shielded vessels, and wouldnt be able to take over planets

 

Picking and choosing canon is cheating... All accounts are a lot more than a couple of dozen star destroyers anyway.

If borg do disable the shield and can get drones in they still have contingents of plasma firing highly trained stormtroopers to deal with, and a self destruct protocol if all is lost in a single SD.

 

One more thing about the Stargate universe, since LK didn't know that:

The Ori tech is powered by the guys with those glowing uber staff weapons. -the ones holded They draw power directly from a higher plane of existance, were the ascended Ori are. The Ori got power from people who believe them to be gods, hence the people were forced to pray all the time. So Ori tech was basically powered by life and thoughts, which is virually endless if people just keept believing in their might. I found that a really well thought out plot.

As for the Wraith tech: it was all organic. Power was stored in the ships themselves, you can see how that goes in season 5 episode: the seed. There is only one known case where Wraith used another power source in their ships, and that was during the last two episodes.

 

I know a fun one: Borg versus Cylons. (from Battlestar Galactica)

 

okay, maybe more then a couple of dozen, but at most a hundred. The book i am referring to had over 5000 battlecruisers(not fighters, nor small ships like the falcon, and including 1000 star destroyers) on the side of the new republic, 2 years after the death of the emperor, and that was merely one section of the fleet.
While the number of destroyers vary from writer to writer, in the books of timothy zahn for an example, 4 star destroyers could turn the tide in a war(Timothy zahn is the best star wars writer), while others had the empire with a few hundred star destroyers(i only count the big ships, not the smaller versions), but none of these had the ridiculous amount of the book i was referring too, or for that matter came even close

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Lol, stormtrooper training sucks. Only snowtrooper -and other elites- had proper training.

 

What? they need mucht training to shoot as awfull as they do


srsly tho, stormtroopers suck