zerg swarm vs borg collective

Oh god.

NERDPLOSION

 

beat me to it

 

http://www.instantrimshot.com

 

I know the touchstone is the weather device you could still use modified Asgard beams to reproduce its effects. Controling the weather is all about controlling where the hot and cold air is as well as how much water is in the air. If you have the ability to move teleport an entire building off a planet then you could likely modify said technology to control where hot and cold air resides.

Back to the Nox. The real problem is the lack of any information on the limitations of their technology. I do dissagree with a fundemental assumption you make though. Improving something doesn't make you smarter than the original builder unless you could have originally built it yourself. What's really interesting is the most distinct ability of the Nox (their ability to bring someone back from the dead with no side effects) is the least conducive piece with regards to the rest of the lore.

 

Nox?

 

also, something i often stated on my stargate forums; we dont know the nox, in the entire run of stargate, we have seen 4 nox.
I am not a weather specialist, but wouldnt something that controls temperature more efficient then something that teleports hot and cold spots?


@Meee:
The Nox:
The 4 nox we have seen in the series appeared to be incredibly low-tech naïve creatures, who said they'd be safe from the goa'uld, so didnt have to hurt the ones on their planet that would launch an invasion against them. The stargate team tried to convince them that violence was the only way for the entire episodes, only to learn at the end of the episode that they were incredibly high-tech.
two of these nox appeared in later episodes, one where they rescue the tollan, a group of superadvanced humans, from a US faction that wants to learn all their tech against their will
then in a later episode one acted as the third member of a tribunal on the Tollan world, whom they apparently had struck an alliance with
They were also mentioned twice in other episodes, one there was mentioned that some tech was stolen from them by a rogue earth faction, and they were mentioned by the asgard as members of the alliance of 4 great races(meaning that they are uberpwnage)

@Kerwyn and Aurora, and other people who know what i am talking about
i once suggested that the tollan were the fifth race to the nox, like the tau'ri were the fifth race to the asgard.


Also, if the alliance was during the atlantis era, there is a chance that it were the Nox who discovered the teleportation and invisibility tech before the ancients, and who came up with a portion of the knowledge in heliopolis, this is pure fan speculation though

 

Those just look like regular hippies.

 

seeing as they are pacifistic and have great knowledge about medicinal herbs



also you might notice that their hair is made of plants

 

You. Have. Seen. Nothing. Yet. You would go crazy upon entering sci-fi fan forums.

As for improving stuff and being smarter because of that: nope, not in my book. For example: McKay improved the anti-wraith tech shield encountered in s01e06: childhoods end. Oh gawd, I just knew that by head, almost. That would make the earth humans smarter then the Lanteans, which is what they were called when making that shield. So that I would reffer to as bs.

 

w/e
I like my Nox better

 

@Aurora, nah, just McKay, you know, the guy that actually made two inventions of the Ancients work that they couldnt work, who added shields to puddle jumpers

McKay's brain is heavily OP

 

New post for more serious stuff:

The Nox created a Stargate for the Tollan. Everybody knows that by now.

Now for some speculation from me, but you will have a really hard time to work your way around it.

We know that the Alliance of Four Great Races consisted of the Ancients, Asgard, Nox and Furlings. This is the common order to name them in. This has nothing to do with their technological advancement. They are simply written by the scenarists in order of importance to the series. Not only that, they are also ordered on how much we know of them.

Now to come back to my first paragraph: the Nox succesfully constructed a Stargate for the Tollan. It is commonly know that this was a white and slightly smaller device as usual. Why do I point this out? Because it proves that the Ancients did not share their most advanced piece of technology with AT LEAST one of their allies in the Milky Way.

Now to go on with determining when this happened: it seems fairly obvious to me. What do old design Stargates have? A dialing ring. What do Stargates that were seeded after Atlantis have? No ring. What did the Asgard said about the Ancients leaving? That it was unexpected and unannounced.

Now the last part and conclusion of this speculation. The Nox Stargate was clearly Atlantis-in-Pegasus era design. Alterrans, later Lanteans, did not share this information with them before they left, because then the Nox would have had a dialing ring. So my guess is that it happened after they returned from Pegasus again. Does that make any sense? :s

 

actually, the asgard referring to the ancients leaving could also have to referred to post-lantean ascension

and about the ancients not sharing tech: wasnt that all what heliopolis was about?

though it has been indeed suggested that they did not share all, why would the Asgard otherwise need to get their own info out of a repository of knowledge

 

But Carter is actually smarter, or at least have more, bit underpowered to say, trival knowledge.

McKay knows nothing about biology. Carter does.

 

yeah, but Carter's only goal in the series isnt to annoy, give mad scientist stories and create Deus Ex Machina

McKay will always find the solution, Carter wont, cause thats the way they are written

 

That is why I said that there was no sharing: they -Asgard- needed to use the database. The Nox would not even need that. They had an almost endless and fully perfect memory. Asgards needed to acces the Ancient repository of knowlegde with computers. Not even their minds could directly comprehend it. I think the repositories were designed to be used by nearly ascende -high intelligence- beings. They would not just have them lying around if they knew anyone could acces them. The only race they knew that was capable of keeping it in their heads were the Nox, the Asgards the only ones why could store it as raw data. So those were probably meant for the Nox. Its organic-ish design and direct link with the mind of the user reflects that.

As for Heliopolis: read the article. It was used as a symbolic meeting place after wiping out a system lord. It was symbolic and they only met their a few times. Also: they did not speak much with each other according to the Asgard. And if they needed to, they had sub-space instant communication tech. Further, the Nox were extremely kept to themselves. Dunno about the Furlings. I hope we see some of them in Infinity or the third -confirmed now- sg 1 movie.

 

But Carter is hawt. xD

 

please stop confusing infinity and universe

Heliopolis contained a vast repository of knowledge, but not the standard ancient ones, rather one that could be read by all races, without making their brains go boom


also, organic-ish design? this is pure speculation and the chance that it is true is nihil

 

Covenant elite versus a protoss zealot?

 

INTERRUPTION! FULL ALERT!

"You don't know what you have done. We are merely the caretakers of those who sleep. The others will awake. AAAL OF THEM.... blaargh"

Aargh, the mixing up is prolly because you reccomended never to watch the cartoon. So I never watched it, nor read about it. Please keep that in mind. I try to avoid sucky spin-offs, such as Infinity, Joey and ten types of CSI series.
Anyway: it looks like a hand that grabs your face. It has an organic-is look from my point of view. Looks not like standard Lantean-Alterran tech. That usually involves flashy lights and remote controlled stuff.